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Carth` · Aug 28, 2006, 09:23 PM // 21:23

I think you make more money selling the keys that drop for you back to the merchant. Buying a key and opening a chest with it usually yields a loss of money. But if you open enough you might just get lucky, but you need the money to start with. Don't use chests to make money, they are primarily a money sink. But the question was are chests worth it, that's a matter of opinion. If you are looking for a rare skin or mod, chests are a good way of finding it.

The Fallen One · Aug 28, 2006, 09:59 PM // 21:59

Here's my opinion on chests, The only places I usually buy keys for is places like FoW or the Elite missions, if I end up taking time to do them(I'm a primary PvPer so this may be biased by the fact that most of the time I have no more than 20k in my vault). The thing about keys, like someone earlier in the thread says, they're pretty much money sinks, 4 out of 5 chances you're not going to get something good enough to make back the money for that individual key, but if you happen to "win the lottery" with chests, especially those with rare skins, it could easily pay back what you've paid for all of the chests you bought that didn't yield a good result. There's also the part that I enjoy buying keys for chests because for one if you don't have the key you feel you missed an oppertunity that you might have got a great item like a 15^50 req. 8 Zodiac bow or some other great item. That statement is of course in my opinion. It all depends on how much money you have and if you're looking for elite items, how much you can pour in to it before it pays out, and how you're going to use the elite item you're getting later.
I'll give an example although of where it did pay out for me, I had bought some of the obsidion keys for Fissure of Woe and after my whole group had to leave me and the only other guy left went running for chests before we died, when I had picked up my item and ided it, low and behold it was a max dmg req.8 15^50 Shadow Bow, I sold it later for 65k making a profit on those keys of, well I can't remember exactly how many I bought but it did make a profit of at least 40k. This is a case where it can turn out bad, every time I attempt the Urgoz's Warren mission, I never seem to get any of his bows and I haven't yet sold anything but one item to another player, for 20k, I know that I've lost money on this transaction.
So all in all it's really just your choice and your funds that depend on whether or not you want to mess with keys+chests or not.
(Please forgive the essay length of the post, I just try to give everything in one go so that I don't have to mess with it later).

reetkever · Aug 28, 2006, 10:21 PM // 22:21

I always said no but I now have a way of chest-running without really losing gold:

I go outside Zos Shivros Channel with only 3 henchmen (2 monks and the guardian, I am a warrior myself as well), I take a long way around the jade sea, killing all the Rot Wallows/Island Guardians I see. I usually get alot of drops, after killing all the Wallows/Guardians, I roughly have 1,5K.

After that I go to the Merchant standing near the res shrine to buy 2 keys, and go the same way I went to kill Wallows/Guardians again, to open the chests. Most of the time it's crap, so I sell the chest drops again and get another 500/600 gold = enough for a third key (if there isn't a third chest, maybe there is during your next run)

Since I don't really lose gold, it's only a matter of time before I find a nice req 8 15>50 weapon, that I can sell for some quick cash ^^

Yanman.be · Aug 28, 2006, 10:27 PM // 22:27

If you're lucky, yes!

Sooty · Aug 28, 2006, 11:44 PM // 23:44

I've been chest running pretty solidly for the last month or so and i find it to be one of the most fun things you can do in gw once you've finished the missions. I don't recommend it unless you have plenty of cash that u can afford to lose. However with so many people buying unids for their title it's hard to lose a lot of money. They key is to always do chest runs in groups. This vastly improves the economics for you since the majority of chests you open will have been tested by another player first to see if it's gold or not. If it's a gold chest, open it, if purple move on. If you open a gold chest and the drop was terrible (ie a caster item), don't id it. Sell it for 600-1k unid and you've broke even or made a profit on that key. If it's a weapon you have a chance of either getting a desirable inherent mod or a mod you can salvage and sell.

TheMadKingGeorge · Aug 28, 2006, 11:56 PM // 23:56

out of 1200 Keys 600 Gold Chests i Have Found Nothing I Wanted To Sell

Spike · Aug 29, 2006, 02:45 AM // 02:45

In the short run keys are gerernaly not worth it, unless your VERY lucky. But in the long run they ARE. One good drop can get you up to 100k or MUCH more. Plus High end chests count towards a title and so does iding the golds. I have found 3 itmes worth 100k and a couple more worth 50k and several worth 20 to 30k.

Aug 29, 2006, 02:45 AM // 02:45	#27
Spike Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: In front of my PC Guild: Kai Profession: E/Mo	In the short run keys are gerernaly not worth it, unless your VERY lucky. But in the long run they ARE. One good drop can get you up to 100k or MUCH more. Plus High end chests count towards a title and so does iding the golds. I have found 3 itmes worth 100k and a couple more worth 50k and several worth 20 to 30k. Last edited by Spike; Aug 29, 2006 at 02:47 AM // 02:47..

Aug 28, 2006, 09:23 PM // 21:23	#21
Carth` Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2006	I think you make more money selling the keys that drop for you back to the merchant. Buying a key and opening a chest with it usually yields a loss of money. But if you open enough you might just get lucky, but you need the money to start with. Don't use chests to make money, they are primarily a money sink. But the question was are chests worth it, that's a matter of opinion. If you are looking for a rare skin or mod, chests are a good way of finding it.

Aug 28, 2006, 09:59 PM // 21:59	#22
The Fallen One Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: Vandal Hearts [VH] Profession: Mo/	Here's my opinion on chests, The only places I usually buy keys for is places like FoW or the Elite missions, if I end up taking time to do them(I'm a primary PvPer so this may be biased by the fact that most of the time I have no more than 20k in my vault). The thing about keys, like someone earlier in the thread says, they're pretty much money sinks, 4 out of 5 chances you're not going to get something good enough to make back the money for that individual key, but if you happen to "win the lottery" with chests, especially those with rare skins, it could easily pay back what you've paid for all of the chests you bought that didn't yield a good result. There's also the part that I enjoy buying keys for chests because for one if you don't have the key you feel you missed an oppertunity that you might have got a great item like a 15^50 req. 8 Zodiac bow or some other great item. That statement is of course in my opinion. It all depends on how much money you have and if you're looking for elite items, how much you can pour in to it before it pays out, and how you're going to use the elite item you're getting later. I'll give an example although of where it did pay out for me, I had bought some of the obsidion keys for Fissure of Woe and after my whole group had to leave me and the only other guy left went running for chests before we died, when I had picked up my item and ided it, low and behold it was a max dmg req.8 15^50 Shadow Bow, I sold it later for 65k making a profit on those keys of, well I can't remember exactly how many I bought but it did make a profit of at least 40k. This is a case where it can turn out bad, every time I attempt the Urgoz's Warren mission, I never seem to get any of his bows and I haven't yet sold anything but one item to another player, for 20k, I know that I've lost money on this transaction. So all in all it's really just your choice and your funds that depend on whether or not you want to mess with keys+chests or not. (Please forgive the essay length of the post, I just try to give everything in one go so that I don't have to mess with it later).

Aug 28, 2006, 10:21 PM // 22:21	#23
reetkever Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Dec 2005 Profession: Mo/E	I always said no but I now have a way of chest-running without really losing gold: I go outside Zos Shivros Channel with only 3 henchmen (2 monks and the guardian, I am a warrior myself as well), I take a long way around the jade sea, killing all the Rot Wallows/Island Guardians I see. I usually get alot of drops, after killing all the Wallows/Guardians, I roughly have 1,5K. After that I go to the Merchant standing near the res shrine to buy 2 keys, and go the same way I went to kill Wallows/Guardians again, to open the chests. Most of the time it's crap, so I sell the chest drops again and get another 500/600 gold = enough for a third key (if there isn't a third chest, maybe there is during your next run) Since I don't really lose gold, it's only a matter of time before I find a nice req 8 15>50 weapon, that I can sell for some quick cash ^^

Aug 28, 2006, 10:27 PM // 22:27	#24
Yanman.be Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium Guild: [ROSE] Profession: A/	If you're lucky, yes!

Aug 28, 2006, 11:44 PM // 23:44	#25
Sooty Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia Guild: Giggity Giggity Goo	I've been chest running pretty solidly for the last month or so and i find it to be one of the most fun things you can do in gw once you've finished the missions. I don't recommend it unless you have plenty of cash that u can afford to lose. However with so many people buying unids for their title it's hard to lose a lot of money. They key is to always do chest runs in groups. This vastly improves the economics for you since the majority of chests you open will have been tested by another player first to see if it's gold or not. If it's a gold chest, open it, if purple move on. If you open a gold chest and the drop was terrible (ie a caster item), don't id it. Sell it for 600-1k unid and you've broke even or made a profit on that key. If it's a weapon you have a chance of either getting a desirable inherent mod or a mod you can salvage and sell.

Aug 28, 2006, 11:56 PM // 23:56	#26
TheMadKingGeorge Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: None Profession: Mo/W	out of 1200 Keys 600 Gold Chests i Have Found Nothing I Wanted To Sell